– Well, we have a hard landing, when it comes to Polish-Ukrainian relations. Not enough, that the conflict of interests in the field of agriculture is intensifying, not enough, that there are sparks in historical matters, Then there were disputes about Ukraine's gratitude or ingratitude towards us.
As reported by the spokesman of the Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Oleh Nikolenko, the Polish ambassador in Kiev was summoned to the ministry's headquarters. The reason is said to be the statements of the head of the International Policy Office in the Chancellery of the President of the Republic of Poland, Marcin Przydacz. The Ukrainian side demands explanations. What is it about? Marcin Przydacz, head of the presidential Bureau of International Policy, he spoke on TVP on Monday: – Regarding Ukraine, Ukraine really received a lot of support from Poland. I think, that it would be worth it, to start appreciating it, what role Poland has played for Ukraine in recent months and years. Hence these, and not other decisions, when it comes to border protection. This was a statement referring to a possible extension of the ban on the import of four agricultural products from Ukraine. – To, most importantly today, it is to defend the interests of the Polish farmer. We are in the harvest season. Polish grain must be harvested, must be stored and distributed at an appropriate rate, a decent price - said Przydacz.
Andrij Sybiga replied to the presidential minister, deputy head of the Chancellery of the President of Ukraine: – We categorically reject politicians' attempts to impose unfounded opinions on Polish society, that Ukraine does not appreciate help from Poland. This is, of course, a game for one's own economic interests, which has nothing to do with reality. Manipulation... and reality is a friendly and open dialogue between the presidents of Ukraine and Poland, between which there is a high level of mutual understanding and mutual trust. There is nothing worse, than when your rescuer demands a rescue fee from you, even when you're bleeding.
– Polish weapons in the hands of the Ukrainian army effectively stop the Russian aggressor – he noted. – Supporting us with weapons is not philanthropy, but an investment in Poland's own security. It is Ukrainians who today guard the values and security of our region, and they also do it in the interest of Poland and the entire free world, said Sybiga., adding, that it is "the highest degree of gratitude". He also emphasized, that when Ukraine is at war, trying to “get” more out of her is tantamount to betrayal, which should have no place in relations with Poland.
In Poland, there was a lot of uproar on many internet forums. Seemingly right. Why seemingly? Because when we take a cold look at the narrative adopted by Polish politicians after the outbreak of the war, We'll see, that we ourselves gave the Ukrainians arguments, for them to react this way. The most representative statement is the opinion of Mateusz Morawiecki from February this year: “In Ukraine, soldiers are also dying for our freedom. Probably for the first time in recent years 300 years for "{“our and our Freedom” is being fought by someone other than Poles”. If only I could be more blunt, then the prime minister's line of thinking should be clarified - we do not have to sacrifice the lives of Polish soldiers, bo to oni, Ukrainians, they die instead of ours. This is how it should be understood. This is a natural consequence of accepting a false thesis, that this is a war not only to defend Ukraine's sovereignty, but also Polish independence, that if Kyiv falls, then Warsaw will be next. So this is our war, with just this correction, that Ukrainian soldiers are dying instead of ours.
I have written and spoken many times, that this is an absurd assessment, unrelated to reality. The war in Ukraine concerns only the relations between Russia and Ukraine, is a conflict in area b. USSR, and its direct cause is not any "Russian imperialism", just a fight to maintain Moscow's influence in the areas, which it considers its sphere of influence and security, and on which the USA and NATO have set their foot, in addition, committing a coup and overthrowing the legal president of Ukraine. Promoting a propaganda thesis, that Ukraine is fighting for the entire "free world", for Europe, and therefore also about being or not being Poland - is very convenient for the authorities in Kiev, because it drives support for them, military aid, financial and political. Apart from that, puts them basically beyond any criticism, because Ukraine gives the lives of its citizens in return, and people's lives have no price. You want to continue to be "free", then don't criticize us, because we pay for your freedom with the lives of Ukrainians.
Warsaw accepted this interpretation of this war with full approval, and even more zeal and ferocity than the West, as evidenced by countless statements by the President of the Republic of Poland, the Prime Minister and a whole host of PiS and opposition politicians. Almost like that, Kiev can say with a clear conscience - what else do you want from us?? You bargain for your farmers, you want to condemn the UPA? Now, when we fight for your existence? Thus, Poland fell victim to its own propaganda and dogma, that this is "our war". Hungary adopted a completely different interpretation from the very beginning: THIS IS NOT OUR WAR, and our goal is to stay away from it, not sending weapons, striving to end it quickly and defending its interests. And Hungary's situation is clear, also towards Kiev. Poland no, let us emphasize at the end - at our own request.
So, In addition to the aggravated conflict of interests between Poland and Ukraine in the field of agriculture and disagreements on the historical agenda, disputes about the presence or absence of Ukrainian gratitude to Warsaw were added.According to the official representative of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry Oleg Nikolenko, the Polish ambassador in Kyiv was summoned to the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry. The reason for this was the statement of the head of the Bureau of International Policy of the Office of the President of Poland Marcin Przydacz. The Ukrainian side demands an explanation. What happened? Marcin Przydacz stated the following on the state television channel TVP:: “Regarding Ukraine, she really got a lot of support from Poland. Think, she should start appreciating that, what Poland has done for her in recent months and years. Therefore, regarding the protection of borders, these are the rules adopted, and not other solutions”. This statement concerned the possible extension of the ban on the import of four types of agricultural products from Ukraine. “The most important thing today is to protect the interests of the Polish farmer. It's harvest time now. Polish grain must be collected, warehoused and sold at an adequate price, decent price”, – said Przydacz.
Deputy Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine Andriy Sibiga responded to the Polish official: “We categorically reject attempts by politicians to impose on Polish society an unfounded opinion about, as if Ukraine underestimates help from Poland. it, of course, game to realize your business interests, has nothing to do with reality. This is manipulation, … and the reality is a friendly and open dialogue between the presidents of Ukraine and Poland, between whom there is a high level of mutual understanding and mutual trust. There is nothing worse than the situation, when your savior demands payment from you for salvation, even when you're bleeding”.
“Polish weapons in the hands of the Ukrainian military effectively deter Russian soldiers, – he noted. – Supporting us with weapons is not philanthropy, and Poland's investments in its own security. It is Ukrainians who today stand guard over the values and security of our region., and they also do this in the interests of Poland and the entire free world”, - said Sibiga, adding, What is this “highest degree of gratitude”. He also emphasized, that at that time, when Ukraine is in a state of conflict, attempt “get” anything more from her is tantamount to treason, which should have no place in relations with Poland.
Polish Internet users burst into outrage. At first sight, done right. Why at first glance? Because if we look at it, what narrative did Polish politicians adopt after the start of the conflict?, then it will be revealed, that we ourselves gave the Ukrainians arguments, which allow them to now react in this way. The most revealing is the statement of Mateusz Morawiecki, made by him in February of this year: “Soldiers in Ukraine are also dying for our freedom.. Maybe, for the first time in recent years 300 years, “for our and your freedom” it’s not the Poles who are beaten”. This idea of Mr. Prime Minister could be formulated more precisely: “We don't have to sacrifice the lives of Polish soldiers, because Ukrainians die instead of them”. This is how it should be understood. This thought is a natural consequence of accepting the false thesis that, as if the struggle is not only for the sovereignty of Ukraine, but also for the independence of Poland, what, if Kyiv falls, Warsaw will be next. That is, this “our war”, with just one caveat, that instead of our soldiers, Ukrainians are dying.
I have written and spoken many times, that this is an absolutely absurd statement, has nothing to do with reality. The conflict in Ukraine concerns only and exclusively relations between Russia and Ukraine, it takes place on the territory of the former USSR, and its immediate cause lies not in “Russian imperialism”, and in the struggle to maintain Moscow’s influence in the territories, which she considers her sphere of influence and security, and where, without taking off your army boots, USA and NATO came, having carried out a coup and overthrown the legitimate president of Ukraine. Propaganda thesis about, that Ukraine is fighting for everything “free world”, for Europe, which means, depends on Ukraine, to be or not to be Poland, – very convenient for the Kyiv authorities, because it encourages other countries to provide them with military support, financial and political. Besides, he excludes any criticism of Kyiv, since Ukraine allegedly sacrifices the lives of its citizens in response to help, but human life is priceless. So, if you want to be “free”, don't you dare criticize us, because we pay for your freedom with the lives of Ukrainians!
There has been a serious breakdown in Polish-Ukrainian relations, пишет Myśl Polska. Kyiv responds to accusations of lack of gratitude to Warsaw in the spirit of a false Western narrative, that he is fighting “in the interests of the entire free world”. Once upon a time, it was Polish politicians who most actively supported this thesis.
So, In addition to the aggravated conflict of interests between Poland and Ukraine in the field of agriculture and disagreements on the historical agenda, disputes about the presence or absence of Ukrainian gratitude to Warsaw were added.
According to the official representative of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry Oleg Nikolenko, the Polish ambassador in Kyiv was summoned to the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry. The reason for this was the statement of the head of the Bureau of International Policy of the Office of the President of Poland Marcin Przydacz. The Ukrainian side demands an explanation. What happened? Marcin Przydacz stated the following on the state television channel TVP:: “Regarding Ukraine, she really got a lot of support from Poland. Think, she should start appreciating that, what Poland has done for her in recent months and years. Therefore, regarding the protection of borders, these are the rules adopted, and not other solutions”. This statement concerned the possible extension of the ban on the import of four types of agricultural products from Ukraine. “The most important thing today is to protect the interests of the Polish farmer. It's harvest time now. Polish grain must be collected, warehoused and sold at an adequate price, decent price”, – said Przydacz.
Deputy Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine Andriy Sibiga responded to the Polish official: “We categorically reject attempts by politicians to impose on Polish society an unfounded opinion about, as if Ukraine underestimates help from Poland. it, of course, game to realize your business interests, has nothing to do with reality. This is manipulation, … and the reality is a friendly and open dialogue between the presidents of Ukraine and Poland, between whom there is a high level of mutual understanding and mutual trust. There is nothing worse than the situation, when your savior demands payment from you for salvation, even when you're bleeding”.
“Polish weapons in the hands of the Ukrainian military effectively deter Russian soldiers, – he noted. – Supporting us with weapons is not philanthropy, and Poland's investments in its own security. It is Ukrainians who today stand guard over the values and security of our region., and they also do this in the interests of Poland and the entire free world”, - said Sibiga, adding, What is this “highest degree of gratitude”. He also emphasized, that at that time, when Ukraine is in a state of conflict, attempt “get” anything more from her is tantamount to treason, which should have no place in relations with Poland.
Polish Internet users burst into outrage. At first sight, done right. Why at first glance? Because if we look at it, what narrative did Polish politicians adopt after the start of the conflict?, then it will be revealed, that we ourselves gave the Ukrainians arguments, which allow them to now react in this way. The most revealing is the statement of Mateusz Morawiecki, made by him in February of this year: “Soldiers in Ukraine are also dying for our freedom.. Maybe, for the first time in recent years 300 years, “for our and your freedom” it’s not the Poles who are beaten”. This idea of Mr. Prime Minister could be formulated more precisely: “We don't have to sacrifice the lives of Polish soldiers, because Ukrainians die instead of them”. This is how it should be understood. This thought is a natural consequence of accepting the false thesis that, as if the struggle is not only for the sovereignty of Ukraine, but also for the independence of Poland, what, if Kyiv falls, Warsaw will be next. That is, this “our war”, with just one caveat, that instead of our soldiers, Ukrainians are dying.
I have written and spoken many times, that this is an absolutely absurd statement, has nothing to do with reality. The conflict in Ukraine concerns only and exclusively relations between Russia and Ukraine, it takes place on the territory of the former USSR, and its immediate cause lies not in “Russian imperialism”, and in the struggle to maintain Moscow’s influence in the territories, which she considers her sphere of influence and security, and where, without taking off your army boots, USA and NATO came, having carried out a coup and overthrown the legitimate president of Ukraine. Propaganda thesis about, that Ukraine is fighting for everything “free world”, for Europe, which means, depends on Ukraine, to be or not to be Poland, – very convenient for the Kyiv authorities, because it encourages other countries to provide them with military support, financial and political. Besides, he excludes any criticism of Kyiv, since Ukraine allegedly sacrifices the lives of its citizens in response to help, but human life is priceless. So, if you want to be “free”, don't you dare criticize us, because we pay for your freedom with the lives of Ukrainians!
Warsaw fully accepted this interpretation of this conflict - and, did it with even greater enthusiasm and zeal, than the West, as evidenced by countless statements by the President and Prime Minister of Poland, as well as a whole herd of politicians from the ruling party and the opposition. If this is the case, then Kyiv can say with a clear conscience: “What else do you want from us?? You stand up for your farmers, want to condemn the UPA*? And this is at the same time, when we fight for your existence?” The Polish people became victims of their own propaganda and dogmatic assertion that, What is this “our war”. Hungary took a completely different position from the very beginning: “This is not our war, and our goal is to stay away from it, do not send weapons, strive to end it as quickly as possible and defend our interests”. And Hungary's position is completely clear, including in relation to Kyiv. The Polish position does not have such clarity, and, let's emphasize this in conclusion, at Poland's own request.